17 September 2009
Tax refund when you leave the UK: PAYE, P45, P85
Unlike other countries, where the employer takes care of this procedures and returns to you all the taxes you paid in excess on with your final payslip, in the UK you have to take care of it because the employer will not do it for you. Nobody is going to warn you nor voluntarily pay you taxes back. If you don’t take care about it, the taxes you paid in excess will remain with the British government.
It’s not the purpose of this post to explain the tax system in the United Kingdom (UK). I will focus on how to make a claim for overpaid taxes according to my own experience. So if you'd like to know how the complex UK tax system works, I recommend you visit the official website of the HM Revenue & Customs. On this post, we will focus on refunds of the Income Tax or PAYE (Pay As You Earn), which is the tax deducted from salaries according to your yearly gross income. We will not write about the National Insurance contributions (NI Tax). The NI tax, according to my modest knowledge, can’t be recovered (if anyone knows how to get a NI tax refund, please advice!).
Why does the UK deduct taxes in excess?
As the PAYE is an annual tax, the amount should be calculated on the basis of how much a person earns annually. What the UK tax office does is, according to your annual gross salary informed by your employer, calculates the tax, splits the amount in 12 parts and deducts the tax in installments from the first month of the fiscal year, rather than deducts the full amount at the end of the fiscal year. What happens when we stop working in the UK is that we have paid PAYE tax for an annual income that we didn’t perceived.
I left the UK and was not aware of this ... Can I still claim for a refund?
The first thing we have to know is that the tax period in the United Kingdom (UK) begins on 6th April and ends on 5th April the following year. You can only claim a tax refund for a tax year that you have not worked completely. If you worked in the UK some years ago and you were not aware of this, keep reading because you can claim a tax refund from the last 6 tax periods.
I paid too much tax ... What are the next steps?
The steps you have to take are the following:
- Your tax office: Find out what is the right tax office where you have to submit your claim by postal mail. Your employer’s Human Resources department should provide you with that information. If you've worked for some time and have received a P60 before, you can find that information there.
- Form P45: Your employer must give you that form when you stop working, with our final pay slip. It basically contains the information about the gross salary you have received and how much tax you have paid in the current tax year at the moment you leave. This is information the tax office will be based to calculate the tax refund. You must send the original P45’s parts 2 and 3 and keep part 1 for your own records.
- Form P85: You can download this form from the HM Revenue & Customs website, or here. The P85 is a form where you basically establish that you are leaving the UK and you have no intention in the short term to return to work there and you won’t keep any business activities in the UK that could mean you're still liable to pay taxes there. Also on that form you indicate the details about the payment method you want for the refund. The options are a United Kingdom (UK) bank account deposit or a check.
I already have all the information… Now what?
Once you complete the form P85, you send it together with the form P45 (parts 2 and 3) by postal mail to the appropriate tax office. You can find the tax office address clicking here, inserting the 3-digit tax office code you can find on the form P45. It is also good practice to include a letter where you indicate that you have left the country with no intentions to return in the short-term, that you have paid too much tax and so, request a tax refund. Include your estimate amount of money the UK tax office should return to you. We recommend sending the letter by certificate post mail, since you will include the original parts 1 and 2 of the form P45, and if they get lost in their way to the UK, you won’t be able to recover them.
How do I know how much refund they should give me back?
You can manually perform the calculation, taking into account the appropriate tax thresholds for the fiscal year to left the UK. Alternatively, you can find on the Internet a lot of companies that provide advice and calculators. As an example, you will be able to find a free calculator by clicking here.
For anyone who wants to further information about the Income Tax, please visit the appropriate section on the official website of the HM Revenue & Customs - Income Tax.
Good luck with your claim and don’t forget to share your experience with us!
UPDATE 29th October 2009: The tax claim I made has been successful and I've received the payment into my UK bank account. Find the details of my story on the following entry: Successful tax refund claim when leaving the UK: PAYE, P45, P85.
17 comments :
Did you fill the P85 for UK Citizen or the P85(s) for Non-UK Citizen?
Thanks!
boas festas. I sent both of them. I called the tax officer to confirm. I explained my situation and he told me that I need to fill the P85. But according to the description on the webpage, P85(s) seemed the right one for me. So to avoid problems I sent both of them and add a note in my letter explaining why I sent both.
I recommend the same to you.
Good luck!
I have filed my tax return with taxback.com. They charge a fee, but it is reasonable for saving me the time for doing all that. I hate making calculations and this was a huge relief.
Quick question,
I also applied for my tax, I sent it to the office in Liverpool that's what I found online. What if it's not the right office? how can I follow up? I'm not in the country anymore.
do i really need to make a calculation of my taxes.
@Anonymous 4: you can follow-up by phone or post. The number/address is updated regularly and is on the HM Revenue & Customs (HMRC) webpage.
@Hydz Thanks: you don't need to make the calculation. But is a good idea if you want to claim taxes back. If you find that you have paid the correct ammount, so there is no need to begin the claim process.
Hi thanks for all your advice and info.
I have sent my P85 and P45 and now waiting, I have phoned them twice and they said it will take some time to sort it out.
I just wanted to ask you if you think that my refund calcualtion will be affected if I come back to the UK in the middle of the next tax year.
Thanks
Hi I left UK in 2011, worked in Uk in the following periods : 2008 to 2009 2009 to 2010, 2010 to 2011 . i want to claim my tax. please let me know for which year i can claim the tax , i have only one p45.please let me know the process
Kishore you have to e-mail to all employers (agencies or whatever) to post (or email you) your P45/P60
I don't have NI or a UTR number. I stayed in UK from June to Oct 2014. I have got my P45. Can I follow the process mentioned above??
hi, i went to the UK on 2008 and came back to my country on january 2012. then i returned to the UK on october 2012 and i have been there until january 2016. now i come back to my home country and i want to ask for tax return. I wanted to ask you if do i need to send a p85 for each p45 and p60 that i have. i appreciate your comments :)
Hi, I've lost my P45 and my last employer is not issuing me another one. Can I still make a claim to refund the tax.
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